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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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from Australia for science and reason

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hello and welcome to the skeptics own

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podcast episode number four hundred and

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forty-two 42 yes the meaning for life

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the universe and everything 442 for the

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ninth of april 2017 richardsaunders here

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with you from a soggy Sydney Australia

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in fact only a couple of hours ago a

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giant arc of a storm front came right

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through Sydney lightning thunder cats

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dogs goldfish everything he could

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imagine falling from the sky it seems to

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have gone now and there's more to the

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corner she was watching the lightning

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out the window she's walking across the

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desks he's getting closer and she's

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jumping on the floor and she wants me to

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play with that you think it's easy

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recording the skeptics own podcast I can

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you sit there and be a good cat while I

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tell the year thank you well I tell

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everybody what's coming up on this

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week's episode of the skeptic zone we're

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gonna kick off with mandy lee noble the

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diet skeptic this week mandy lee is

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going to be telling us all about myths

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and misconceptions about coconut oil i

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used to use coconut oil when I was a kid

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as sunscreen I don't know if that was a

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very good idea coconut oil I do like the

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taste of it but what are some of the

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misconceptions about coconut oil is it

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the Wonder natural super duper food

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wheel here about find out at the top of

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the show with mandy lee noble following

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that it's dr. ray cheer apports this

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week dr. Reggie found herself on ABC

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radio here in Australia talking about

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conspiracy theories so what we're going

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to bring you is part of dr. Reggie

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reports this week is a highlights

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truncated version of the radio interview

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she did on ABC radio if you want to hear

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the full talk the full interview which

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goes for much longer I'll put a link in

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the show notes but highlights of dr.

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following that it's brouhaha from

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Australia science TV and this week Ben

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Lewis will be telling us about how

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you we asked you how you can help

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science and we have a story from the

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Australian skeptics about the staggering

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number of complaints complaints made

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about or against chiropractors in

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Australia way out of proportion to other

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healthcare professionals we might say

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complaints about chiropractic a very

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worrying report coming up a bit later on

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in the show and then we head for

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Sydney's skeptics in the pub and we

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asked pub goers what their predictions

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are huh their psychic predictions are

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otherwise for the rest of 2017 tonight

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the part of maynard will be played by

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Richard Saunders yes it's normally

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maynard running around skeptics in the

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pub with his microphone using dispose

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this week so I play the part of Maynard

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you'll hear a bit of popping so just be

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aware for that and then to round off the

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show a very brief report recorded this

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afternoon I spend the afternoon with

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some lovely people from the stranger

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things meetup group where we spent hours

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poring over psychic predictions as part

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of this project the great prediction

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project and it was all a matter of

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researching their predictions to see if

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they were true or otherwise a big task

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and I think there'll be many more

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afternoons of concerted effort marking

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psychics homework to not sort of things

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and what do you do for a living I mark

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the homework of psychics and I see now

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here's a note to those people have

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written into the skeptic zone in the

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last week to congratulate Maynard and

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here's win at the Castaway podcast

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awards at Manor calm today you you can

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hear Maynard's award-winning funny

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podcast great stuff ah the note is thank

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you that's really fab fabulous that

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you're thinking you may not you can

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contact team direct at mayanic com that

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a you and for those people who are

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inquiring about using Maynard further

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gigs and whatever that's the place to do

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it Maynard calm today you a

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congratulations once again may not what

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a fun night that was and I think

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and I hope there will be lots of videos

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online soon from the night that I was

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taking I've made out on the red carpet

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but i will keep you informed about that

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day in the coming weeks well that's

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enough for me at the moment I that more

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studio don't know why she's probably

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and toast yes avocado on toast maybe

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what you say well I do that I hope you

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enjoy the skeptics are

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that looks good enough to eat or does it

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here's the diet skeptic mandy lee Noble

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hello skeptics own listeners mantilini

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noble here dietitian and skeptic

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reporting from Brisbane this week on the

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diet skeptic report I will be

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investigating coconut oil the use of

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coconut oil has been very popular the

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song time with health and wellness gurus

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such as celebrity chef pete evans lola

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berry and sarah wilson they have

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attested to coconut oils excellent

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cooking properties and superior health

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benefits unfortunately time does not

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permit me to examine every claim made

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about coconut oil on the diet skeptic

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report so today I will address some of

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the key underlying misconceptions that

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have led to coconut oil being perceived

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as a modern-day panacea the first

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misconception is a simple one this

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coconut oil have a high smoke point the

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answer is no coconut oil does have a

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slightly higher smoke point than butter

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but it is much lower than olive oil

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coconut oil is not a good choice for

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high temperature cooking like shallow or

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lights or tain however coconut oil is

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very stable at room temperature it has a

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long shelf life and can be stored in the

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pantry without going rancid the

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properties of coconut oil make it a good

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substitute for dairy in dairy free and

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vegan desserts the second misconception

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absorbed differently to other fats but

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complicated but for all intents and

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purposes no coconut oil is made up of a

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fixed ratio of different facts that are

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different lengths around fifteen percent

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are ten carbon atoms in length or less

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length fatty acids and they are unlike

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the blood where they can be used as

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energy other dietary fats are long chain

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fatty acids they've broken down with

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that transport the fatty acids to be

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used as energy or stored as fat tissue

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the confusion with coconut oil is with

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the lauric acid component lauric acid is

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a fact that is 12 carbon atoms in length

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coconut oil the remaining thirty five

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percent of coconut oil is made up of

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long length facts lauric acid is

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acid and at other times it is called a

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long chain fatty acid but it is mostly

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digested like a long-chain fatty acid

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this means that most of the facts the

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makeup coconut oil are broken down with

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bile and digestive enzymes and absorbed

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preparations of medium chain fatty acids

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triglycerides these are artificial

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preparations are used in research and

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are derived from coconut or palm oil but

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triglycerides are given to those who

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cannot digest regular fats found in food

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supervision as I have the potential for

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serious side effects the misconception

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about the absorption of fats in coconut

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oil has come about by scientific and

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medical research being misinterpreted

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for the experts it can be difficult to

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rebut pseudo scientific claims about

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health without giving long-winded

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explanations of the underlying science

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health and wellness gurus muddy the

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waters on health and nutrition by

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encouraging their followers to ignore

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the experts interpretations and attempt

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to interpret the research for themselves

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the third misconception is especially

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important for those who've made the

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switched coconut oil for health reasons

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cardiovascular disease risk factors as

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other saturated fats the answer to this

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saturated fat and has been found to

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increase both LDL cholesterol which is a

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cardiovascular risk factor and HDL

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cholesterol which has cardiovascular

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benefits clinical trials and

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observational studies have reported that

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overall coconut oil raises total

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cholesterol and LDL cholesterol to a

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slightly lesser extent than butter but

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to a higher extent than unsaturated

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vegetable oils replacing healthy oils

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with coconut oil would reduce the

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potential for cardiovascular benefit

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while increasing cardiovascular risk

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factors of course the advocates of

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coconut oil would refute these facts by

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pointing out the healthy lipid profiles

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and low rates of cardiovascular disease

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among indigenous populations who include

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coconut in their traditional diets

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however for these populations coconut is

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often the sole source of saturated fat

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in their diet that otherwise consisted

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of seafood fruits and vegetables the

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final misconception is that coconut oil

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can be used as an alternative to

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conventional dental hygiene the ancient

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practice of oil pulling or swishing

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edible oil between one's teeth for up to

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20 minutes has made a modern-day

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resurrection but there is little

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evidence of it being beneficial beyond

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the mechanical action of dislodging food

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from around the teeth due to a lack of

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evidence the American Dental Authority

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supplementary or placement practice to

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standard oral care so the final word on

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coconut oil is to ignore the hype and

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is afternoons on ABC Radio Canberra now

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you might recall we spoke to dr. Rachel

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Dunlop a few weeks ago it was on the

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validity or otherwise of seeking medical

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advice online through things like dr.

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Google well it turns out she loves a

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good conspiracy theory too and since she

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started living and working in the US

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this year she now finds herself in prime

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territory for the latest from the tin

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foil hat wearers now Rachel good

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afternoon or good evening for you good

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now I'm going to start by reading the

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note that you sent to Brett last week to

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talk about this you said quote I've been

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monitoring the latest conspiracy

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theories and new one is that Australia

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doesn't exist because England made it up

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to send convicts off the end of a flat

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earth what on earth are you talking

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about yeah this was one that happened

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when you were away actually and it's fun

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it turns out that it might be a little

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bit tongue-in-cheek but when it was

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first sent out it was taken very

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seriously it was a person in Scandinavia

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who decided that they would post this on

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Facebook and basically what they said is

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that it's a hoax and like you said

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Britain moved all the criminals out of

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England but really just like send them

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into the sea instead that they went to

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Australia so she was also saying if you

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think you've been to Australia you're

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terribly wrong and all the pilots have

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been on this and it's all a big

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conspiracy where am i right now I'm on a

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fine but I could just be calling to see

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I don't know now why why on earth do

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conspiracy theories begin in the first

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place and why are some of them so

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believable well I guess I mean

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conspiracy theories really are an

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explanation of of an event or something

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that happens that where people invited

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conspiracy without reason and they often

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do it because they don't want to believe

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truth or you know what it's also more

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interesting to say that aileas came down

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and took away eldest and to you know I

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think that he died of obesity and a

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heart attack so in some cases that can

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actually be really fun but in some cases

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they can also be harmful because there

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are some that actually called harmed

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that depending on what they're about and

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the most common and obviously well-known

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conspiracy theory is probably the moon

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landing as is there ever been a theory

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that's run quite so long you know what I

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don't think there is I mean this one's

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pretty persistent but the other one

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maybe is a Roswell incident when yes

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people may remember is back in the 50s

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there was a weather balloon that landed

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in America and it was then taken into a

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facility and people said it was UFOs and

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that the government was covering up by

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saying that it was a weather balloon and

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of course then pictures came out of

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bodies that looked like aliens and

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people were claiming that the government

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was doing experiments on aliens in

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Roswell in area 51 and that has been a

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huge you know tourist attraction in that

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part of the states now wherever people

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go there to see the aliens there are

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alien cafes and everything exactly but

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you know it never happens but it's a

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good fun story isn't it you know maybe

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it did one of the most well you know who

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knows maybe it happened who knows and

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are they still conspiracy theorists

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there around the moon landing in the

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United States who still don't believe it

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ever happened yeah there are still

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plenty of them and you know not that

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long ago Buzz Aldrin who was one of the

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astronauts that went and walked on the

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moon he actually punched a non believer

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in the face and there is footage of this

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on youtube because he had this guy he

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was filming a documentary who approached

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him after he'd given a speech and called

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him a liar and a fraud for making money

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of speaking about him go him going to

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the mirror he lost his temper and he

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punched him in the face you know which

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is probably not that fun for the

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non-believer but yeah there's still

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plenty of people that believe that the

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moon landings never happened and how

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much do you think the internet drives

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these conspiracy theories is it worse

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today do you think than it was back in

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the day absolutely i mean i don't know

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Laura if you have heard

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Flat Earth Society have you heard of

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them might you might think that they

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would have died out many years ago with

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the advancement of science and us being

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able to circumnavigate the globe and you

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know it's actually determined that the

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earth is round but they reinvigorated

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themselves a few years ago and they now

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have a website and they have forums

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which is very active where people go and

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talk about their series of the earth

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being flat which by the way is quite

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easy to debunk that theory because there

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is a Qantas flight that goes from the

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east coast of Australia to Chile and it

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gets there in about 12 hours and if the

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earth wasn't curved it would have to

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break the speed of sound to get there in

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that time so it's quite easy to bump

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that theory but that doesn't mean that

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these people won't click on to and say

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no no we actually want a disc that's

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what they believe will live on a disk

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and they can send this information out

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across the work very quickly through the

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instance reforms which which gets it to

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a lot of people who maybe start to

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believe it but there you know there's

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some other ones that I find really fun

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for example there's one called chem

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trails which if you ever go to the

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northern rivers part of Australia near

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nimbin and melon Bimby which has just

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been subject to horrific flooding there

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are big posters there that are that are

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nailed onto trees but say look up

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chemtrails and chemtrails are actually

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contrails to come out of an aircraft and

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they're created by water vapor but

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people claim that they're actually being

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sprayed deliberately by the government

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and they contain chemicals to control

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the populations mind and in some cases

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they control the control mind-control

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chips I think I saw some of these signs

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on the side of trees the other day when

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I drove past actually i was updating

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probably mm-hmm i was wondering what was

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all about there well so they actually

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contain mind-control chips that then the

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government can switch on and control the

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population so but Laura do not worry

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because you can just disperse those

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using vinegar so what you need to do is

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get a spray bottle of vinegar and a just

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a household fan like a normal family

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Jesus summertime and you spray the

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vinegar through the fan and it goes up

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into the sky and get rid of them and you

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can find it on YouTube something must be

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true anything you find on youtube we'll

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see

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when I came across a couple of months

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ago and it really had me going for a

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while there and and I'm still fascinated

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by it but this whole conspiracy theory

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that Paul McCartney died in the early

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days of the beatles in a car accident

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was was replaced by a look-alike and the

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real guy now is not really Paul

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McCartney have you heard that one I have

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heard that one I mean this is kind of it

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gets mixed up with the whole Michael

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Jackson is not actually dead and elders

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never died and then you know works in a

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car wash in our zone or something I mean

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these ones are pretty ohana no are they

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easy to disprove it seems that I ad for

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me but Elvis is often seen in past once

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a year I think it was personally but I

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literally spent maybe 15 minutes and I

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knew it wasn't true but I couldn't help

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but watch the videos that so supposedly

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proved that Paul McCartney was dead you

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can't waste a lot of time while I'm

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doing things like this crime yeah I

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don't know if you've heard of a guy

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called David Icke he's quite a famous

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conspiracy theorist his English he used

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to be a football player and now he's one

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of the the doyens of conspiracy theory

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and he has this wonderful idea that the

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royal family are actually reptilians or

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lizard people's it does so so basically

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they yeah there are bloodline of

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reptilians and they're hiding a human

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skin until such time as they can come

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out and take over the world sounds like

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an episode of doctor who actually think

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the series of V was based on his story

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it's taken on a life of its own now

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where people actually believe it it's

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true and if you go to youtube again

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which is you know scientifically

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reviewed and peer-reviewed you will find

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videos of like the Queen where they'll

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have a little like loser tongue coming

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out at certain points to indicate that

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she actually is a lizard person thank

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you so much dr. Rachel Dunlop it was a

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fascinating subject to talk about

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appreciate it thanks Laura thanks for

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having me that's dr. Rachel Dunlop an

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honorary research fellow with Macquarie

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University who's currently based at the

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Institute for its no medicine

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Jackson Hole Wyoming she also describes

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herself as a scientist a skeptic and a

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seeker of the truth the truth is out

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there you're listening to ABC radio

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camera and now direct from the cafe at

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Australia's science channel its brouhaha

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with Ben Lewis Australian researchers

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need help to complete the biggest ever

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study into the genetics of mental health

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depression they want to hear from you or

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you will need to do is fill out a survey

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that will have everything they need to

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work out what genes might be involved in

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causing depression and once they know

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that they can personalize people's

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treatment for genetic studies to be

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really useful you need a huge number of

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people so I'll asking the public to fill

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out surveys the studies might not be

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anything you to hear to the next level

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and asking them to part with a

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biological sample is and if your aim is

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twenty thousand samples the only way to

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do that is to go large and ask everyone

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to help out so it's no wonder this

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approach is becoming more and more

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common so if you're a student a teacher

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a fireman a policewoman a chef or a

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scientist expect more chances to

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contribute to the scientific process

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because while science is great sometimes

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it needs a bit of help

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for more brouhaha and Australian science

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[Music]

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you

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[Music]

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now one of the things that can sometimes

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surprise people when they are learning

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about skepticism they're not surprised

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that skeptics are skeptical about things

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like UFOs or acupuncture homeopathy

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Reiki the list goes on telekinesis spoon

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bending all that sort of stuff but when

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people hear that the skeptical movement

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in general is skeptical of chiropractic

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a lot of people are confused because

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there's a general feeling in the

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community that the chiropractic is a

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special branch of medicine and

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chiropractic and chiropractors a

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legitimate physicians or health care

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professionals now I won't go into the

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reasons at the moment why the modern

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skeptical movement is skeptical of

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chiropractic that there's plenty of

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information online about that in fact I

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can recommend the video by dr. Harriet

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hall which we advertised quite

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frequently here on the skeptic zone but

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this brings me to an article written by

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Tim mendham published it skeptics

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comdata you which is another angle to

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this story chiropractic profession

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outperforms all others on number of

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complaints chiropractors makeup

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two-point-eight percent of all

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registered health practitioners across

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the national scheme and yet complaints

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about possible statutory offenses by

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chiropractors in 2015 2016 constituted

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44.6 percent of all such complaints

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across all of the 14 registered health

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professions the figures are revealed in

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a profession specific annual report

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summary titled quote managing risk to

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the public regulation at work in

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Australia in quote this looks into the

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work of the chiropractic board of

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Australia over the year to 30th of tune

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2016 and forms part of the 2015-16

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annual report of the Australian health

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practitioner regulation agency

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chiropractors also received nearly twice

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the annual average of notifications

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two point eight percent of chiropractors

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compared with one point five percent

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across all professions statutory

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offenses breaches of the national law

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committed by registered health

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practitioners and unregistered

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individuals these include unlawful use

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of a protected title performing a

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registered act holding out claims by

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individuals or organizations as to

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registration and unlawful advertising

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notifications covers all complaints or

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concerns as of the 30th of June 2016

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there were 5167 registered chiropractors

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in Australia Wow 5167 just in Australia

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making up two point eight percent of all

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registered health practitioners women

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make up to thirty eight point five

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percent of the profession the total

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number of registered chiropractic

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students decreased by thirty four point

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five percent compared to 2014-15 to 1240

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it is the number of complaints and

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possible offences which inspired the

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chiropractic Board of Australia to

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conduct a voluntary anonymous survey of

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chiropractors to gain a better

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understanding of practitioners knowledge

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of their obligations under the National

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Law 82 notifications complaints or

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concerned were lodged with the ahpra

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about chiropractors during the year 601

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matters were raised about possible

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statutory offenses relating to

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chiropractic services in 2015-16 almost

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all of these related to unlawful

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advertising the statutory offence

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complaints constitute 44.6 percent of

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all such matters received across all 14

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registered health professions and almost

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double the rate of notifications across

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these professions despite these

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staggering numbers there is only one

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reference to the offenders in the

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reports year in review quote we worked

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closely with the ahpra to develop

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and refine the process for managing

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offences under the national law

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particularly in relation to advertising

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to ensure matters that pose the highest

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risk to the health and safety of the

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public are dealt with as quickly as

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possible then quote there are no

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mentions at all of the figures or even

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of the offenders per se in the annual

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report message from Wayne Minter chair

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of the chiropractic board of Australia

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nor the joint message from Michael

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Gorton chair of the ahp Ras agency

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management committee and Martin Fletcher

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CEO of ahpra there are however several

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pages of data on offences complaints and

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resolutions in 2015-16 the board

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conducted a voluntary email survey of

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chiropractors the report says that quote

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the highest response rate has provided

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the board with a better understanding of

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chiropractors knowledge of their

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obligations under the national law and

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the areas in which it may need to

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provide more regulatory guidance end

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quote this report summary does not

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include the results of that survey

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[Music]

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and it's also worth noting although our

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skeptic own fans would be well aware of

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this that many chiropractors and not all

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of course but many are anti-vaccination

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many cling to very old ideas that

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disease is caused by miss alignment of

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the spine and so on and so forth so

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there we go a very thoughtful report

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there and that can be read it skeptics

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[Music]

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the

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dr. Harriet hall md no into thousands as

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the skeptic a retired family physician

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and former Air Force flight surgeon she

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writes about medicine so called

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complementary and alternative medicine

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science quackery and critical thinking

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Harriet now has a free course a series

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of ten video lectures on science based

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medicine and alternative medicine the

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videos and an accompanying course guide

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can be found by following the link at

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skeptic info or by visiting web Randy's

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org slash educational dash modules dot

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HTML topics covered in the series are

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science-based medicine vs.

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evidence-based medicine what is cam

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chiropractic acupuncture homeopathy

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naturopathy and herbal medicine energy

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medicine miscellaneous alternatives

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pitfalls in research and science-based

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medicine in the media and politics

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Harriet covers each topic in a matter of

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fact no-nonsense way that sure to

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educate and entertain skeptic dot info

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[Music]

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it's Sydney's skeptics in the pub no

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it's not Maynard this week main art is

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indisposed is Sir Richard Saunders here

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reporting pretending to be may not a

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pale a pale imitation a cardboard cutout

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of Manor but tonight's big question

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since we're I'm involved with this

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prediction process project is what do

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pub goers predict for the coming year

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that's the big question tonight and

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we've got somebody new here at skeptics

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in the pub in your name is Amy hi only

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why are you here I'm here to speak about

736
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and provide some insight into what it is

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like to be raised within a cult and how

738
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it is in the recovery process wow how

739
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that's that's it that's embarrassing

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because I didn't realize that you were

741
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actually one of our speakers to nothing

742
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oh yeah how embarrassing is that so

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tonight we're asking pub goers and

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special guests if you had to psychic

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magic mystical predictions for the rest

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of 2017 they could be about celebrities

747
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or natural disasters or politicians or

748
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,940
the Royals but what's to random magical

749
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predictions you might have oh my

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goodness most likely that we're probably

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going to get to the closest to the

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prologue of the Hunger Games are than

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and hopefully these celebrities and

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famous people that died this year are

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all the villains you're Charles Manson's

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your your your fraudsters your criminals

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hopefully this year will see the the end

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of their lives rather than that of

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Carrie Fisher or David Bowie oh yes a

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lot of nice good people died last year

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you're hoping that some not so lovely

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people I'm hoping the universe may may

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balance it out of it I will see if that

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prediction comes true thanks to you

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thank you that's all right we have

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another regular pupper here what do you

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think we've always to ask you to give me

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your to psychic predictions for 2017

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celebrities Royals politicians natural

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disasters have a go I well I'm going to

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predict things that I would like to

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happen sure I predict that that American

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politics will improve and I predict that

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the movie of SMS foundation will finally

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come out well I hope both those

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predictions come true thank you you meet

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my co duty

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it's a Tim mendham from the skeptics

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whose reports we often read out on the

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skeptic zone this week is patch this

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burst weeks Tim if you had to psychic

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predictions to give for the rest of the

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year what would they be one there'll be

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a tragedy in a royal family not saying

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where and there will be a major

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earthquake in everything Eurasia

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somewhere i think i'm looking forward to

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Turkey Iran so when you say you're

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looking forward yes it might be a bit

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that might be a bit unfair but I'm

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definitely looking to that part of the

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world turkey yeah well okay your

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predictions have been noted thank you

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very much and what do I win we'll get to

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that later well it's my old friend

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Claire back here at Sydney skeptics in

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the pub hello Claire hi we jiten the

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talks over now what the listeners don't

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know is there's a big talk about cults

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two speakers wow that was quite heavy

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wasn't it I was very impressed with the

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the clarity that our first speaker

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spoke with and her openness to to to

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discuss what the effects were all on

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herself in her family mainly herself and

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it was really I was quite impressed we

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and both speakers tonight we had a cold

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expert and somebody who was in a cult

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Wow blew my mind tonight usually it's

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not so heavy at skeptics in the pub but

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it was a really interesting topic yes

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well I think everyone can can associate

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with the concept of being attracted to

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an idea it's just that Colts obviously

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one is attracted or someone who is

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attracted to a cult has attracted on a

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higher intensity level I suppose and so

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we can all imagine that situation but to

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hear someone talking is actually being

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in that born into that cold situation

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has gotten themselves out is it's really

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engaging because you can all associated

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with well I'm you gave me to think

824
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:13,619
engaging is absolutely right now the

825
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:15,480
question denial Department met the

826
00:38:20,299 --> 00:38:16,980
question tonight I'm asking people if

827
00:38:22,759 --> 00:38:20,309
you had to psychic haha psychic

828
00:38:25,069 --> 00:38:22,769
predictions for the rest of this year it

829
00:38:27,019 --> 00:38:25,079
could be natural disasters or politics

830
00:38:29,269 --> 00:38:27,029
or celebrities or Royals or anything

831
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:29,279
like that have a go what are your two

832
00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:33,170
psychic predictions oh I'd predict that

833
00:38:37,870 --> 00:38:35,220
politically Donald Trump will be up

834
00:38:49,210 --> 00:38:42,970
yeah yeah yeah my second weird or not we

835
00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:49,220
have to be geological prediction is that

836
00:38:56,590 --> 00:38:53,660
let me see a super volcano goes off a

837
00:38:58,720 --> 00:38:56,600
super not not just not just a volcano

838
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,730
Yellowstone goes bang no we're not

839
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,280
talking Vesuvius right back super

840
00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:03,680
volcano talking more like Krakatoa its

841
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,260
equivalent in sort of you know attracted

842
00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:08,240
to you know their zombie apocalypse oh

843
00:39:12,220 --> 00:39:10,550
well if it happen to go bang if it

844
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:12,230
happens we know who to come to our yeah

845
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:17,090
that's right thanks Claire steadier than

846
00:39:23,130 --> 00:39:19,610
me what's this one don't I know it

847
00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:23,140
doesn't say yes the conversation and the

848
00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:25,070
arguments are going back and forth here

849
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:26,990
at skeptics in the pub but the question

850
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,690
tonight gentlemen I'm asking Bubba's is

851
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:31,520
if you had a psychic prediction or two

852
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:33,650
to give for the rest of 2017 what would

853
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:36,290
it be there's going to be a bad

854
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:39,410
earthquake in Wellington New Zealand all

855
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:41,540
the Xperia are you predicting the past

856
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:44,090
now no no no no no no this is there was

857
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:46,520
a earthquake in christchurch all right

858
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:48,410
there's going to be an earthquake in

859
00:39:52,060 --> 00:39:50,810
Wellington all the expensive houses and

860
00:39:58,930 --> 00:39:52,070
beer and poor going to end up in the

861
00:40:02,260 --> 00:39:58,940
harbor and I predict that Donald Trump

862
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:02,270
is not going to be impeached despite

863
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,330
predictions not know now there's a bold

864
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:07,040
prediction you have any predictions for

865
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,730
the rest of the year i believe put on

866
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:12,800
the spot here and i really I'd like to

867
00:40:19,420 --> 00:40:16,900
wish I knew perhaps I could say that but

868
00:40:21,850 --> 00:40:19,430
Turnbull will will there be a leadership

869
00:40:23,830 --> 00:40:21,860
spill in the essence a leadership spill

870
00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:23,840
for the Prime Minister all right we'll

871
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:25,670
give me a change for Australian politics

872
00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:27,640
wouldn't that would be unprecedented

873
00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:30,620
almost unprecedented there's never been

874
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:37,670
he got some more skeptic in the pub

875
00:40:42,260 --> 00:40:40,200
people here I'm opposed to ask you if

876
00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:42,270
you had a psychic prediction or two for

877
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:44,990
the rest of 2017 what would they be I

878
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:47,700
couldn't I couldn't you couldn't know

879
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:49,440
you could you predict something maybe

880
00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:51,089
for the future of Simon Turnbull or

881
00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:54,990
Donald Trump or yes yes oh yes um he

882
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:57,420
will resign which one tone below Trump

883
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:00,480
Trump Trump going to resign and he will

884
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:02,460
blame everyone else for voting for him

885
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:05,910
you heard it here first

886
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:17,490
[Music]

887
00:41:23,969 --> 00:41:20,609
[Applause]

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00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:23,979
calling all skeptics or listeners do you

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00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:26,380
live in or near Glasgow or are you

890
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:28,690
planning to visit something then you're

891
00:41:34,289 --> 00:41:30,910
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892
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available Monday night talks on science

895
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and skepticism past speakers include

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897
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898
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dissonance PZ Myers Richard Wiseman AC

899
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:51,099
grilling nor Heath and Eli from the

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scaling atheists Simon Singh rebecca

901
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watson and a multitude of local

902
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,749
academics and skeptics there's literally

903
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nothing better you can do on a monday

904
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:02,710
night in Glasgow it doesn't revolve

905
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906
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Community you can find us on facebook

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909
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discussion class go skeptics self-help

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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00:42:42,450 --> 00:42:39,550
like glorious 80s music we're doing the

916
00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:42,460
research part of the great prediction

917
00:42:48,099 --> 00:42:44,750
project i'm here with stranger things

918
00:42:50,650 --> 00:42:48,109
down under hello ilithyia Trish hello

919
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:50,660
Lara aye we're all sitting around a

920
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:52,580
table here in Redfern at Trish's place

921
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:54,770
with groovy music on in the background

922
00:43:02,530 --> 00:42:57,710
with our laptops on the go and um what

923
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:02,540
have we made it through 2000 2001 and

924
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:07,280
turn up to 2002 right but it's only the

925
00:43:10,990 --> 00:43:08,930
predictions that are on the spreadsheet

926
00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:11,000
there's lots more to be filled out and

927
00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:12,980
it's quite an interesting process

928
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:16,430
wouldn't you say Alethea it's been quite

929
00:43:20,109 --> 00:43:18,230
a journey our process because I think

930
00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:20,119
their problem is all these protections

931
00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:23,390
are couched in such weird vague terms

932
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,300
then it's really hard to verify them or

933
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:28,160
not is it a prediction or is it just a

934
00:43:32,589 --> 00:43:30,530
description and if they're talking about

935
00:43:35,650 --> 00:43:32,599
someone's feelings that's not very

936
00:43:37,870 --> 00:43:35,660
horrible yeah we just had a big argument

937
00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:37,880
argument a big discussion about lately

938
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:40,520
his budget about Lleyton Hewitt the

939
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:43,250
tennis player his ankles because one of

940
00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:45,170
the predictions revolved around his

941
00:43:50,339 --> 00:43:46,760
ankles and who we up to at the moment

942
00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:50,349
Oprah Winfrey one of your favorites

943
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:53,630
Oprah yeah definitely I was a plastic

944
00:44:00,339 --> 00:43:57,680
yeah and apparently all sorts of things

945
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:00,349
were installed for her in the year what

946
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:02,810
are we up to two thousand to fifteen

947
00:44:07,570 --> 00:44:05,599
years ago can you believe it yeah I can

948
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,580
believe it was pretty strange and this

949
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:09,680
prediction talks about a fallout with a

950
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:14,240
much revered friend that will greatly

951
00:44:20,579 --> 00:44:16,930
affect her and because she trusted him a

952
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:20,589
friend she trusted me Garth

953
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:23,630
so yeah this has been fun afternoon

954
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:25,730
we've already had our pizza break which

955
00:44:29,530 --> 00:44:27,170
was quite good as the best part I

956
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:29,540
afternoon in fact but yeah it's just a

957
00:44:33,849 --> 00:44:31,220
matter of going through prediction after

958
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:33,859
prediction after prediction and deciding

959
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:35,810
whether their predictions at all or just

960
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:38,990
waffle and then trying to decide whether

961
00:44:43,690 --> 00:44:41,390
they're true or not or too vague or no

962
00:44:44,829 --> 00:44:43,700
prediction what if you found that no I'm

963
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:44,839
just saying like when you talking about

964
00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:46,910
it being too vague this one here says

965
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:49,220
there's a need to reassess her life it's

966
00:44:52,329 --> 00:44:50,480
not even a prediction it's just somebody

967
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:52,339
giving advice it's like it's a now

968
00:44:57,089 --> 00:44:54,470
currently giving them advice how they do

969
00:45:00,910 --> 00:44:57,099
that alone don't take advice from psyche

970
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,920
that's good advice the trick is advising

971
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:03,200
like it you can listen to it so this is

972
00:45:10,089 --> 00:45:08,570
a really interesting project it's a long

973
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:10,099
way to go though but to thank you

974
00:45:17,110 --> 00:45:12,230
stranger things down under for being

975
00:45:38,139 --> 00:45:17,120
part of this this project welcome

976
00:45:42,799 --> 00:45:40,609
thank you for listening to the skeptic

977
00:45:46,669 --> 00:45:42,809
zone and a big thank you to Trish Lara

978
00:45:48,999 --> 00:45:46,679
and Alethea who helped me this afternoon

979
00:45:51,439 --> 00:45:49,009
with the great day prediction project

980
00:45:54,949 --> 00:45:51,449
many more afternoons coming up with

981
00:45:57,499 --> 00:45:54,959
pizza and dumb gingerbread cookies a fun

982
00:46:00,079 --> 00:45:57,509
afternoon and but very hard work I must

983
00:46:01,929 --> 00:46:00,089
say it's it's quite an effort to go

984
00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:01,939
through prediction after prediction and

985
00:46:07,219 --> 00:46:04,859
we have hundreds and hundreds more to do

986
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,229
and thank you to those lovely people who

987
00:46:11,989 --> 00:46:08,880
came along to Sydney skeptics in the pub

988
00:46:14,389 --> 00:46:11,999
what a fascinating night that was about

989
00:46:16,099 --> 00:46:14,399
cult you're very worrying but

990
00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:16,109
fascinating all the same and we look

991
00:46:20,059 --> 00:46:17,579
forward to seeing everybody at Sydney's

992
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:20,069
skeptics in the pub the first thursday

993
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:23,609
of may coming up on next week's show I

994
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:26,569
think I think we have a report from

995
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:30,209
Shelley stockin that's a hint Shelley I

996
00:46:34,969 --> 00:46:32,729
hope we have report from Chile stockin

997
00:46:37,789 --> 00:46:34,979
we'll see what Maenads been up to since

998
00:46:40,789 --> 00:46:37,799
now winning that award and other things

999
00:46:44,779 --> 00:46:40,799
that I can't predict because I can't see

1000
00:46:47,389 --> 00:46:44,789
into the future if I could I'd probably

1001
00:46:49,069 --> 00:46:47,399
hit the casino well with the rain still

1002
00:46:52,579 --> 00:46:49,079
coming down outside the window in the

1003
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:52,589
cat serum found another window to look

1004
00:47:02,059 --> 00:46:55,169
outside this is Richard Saunders signing

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